koffee @likeAplan It's not about being inappropriate. It's just reveals that you think a minority that supports the GOP is a "sell out", which is pretty bigoted.
likeAplan @koffee - I did pick the picture. was it inappropriate?
likeAplan @FrankieAddiego - It ain't what you say or stand for, it's how you say it and stand for it. At the end of the day, you and I see things through a different lens. We will have to agree to disagree. You have the last word.
likeAplan @cchanldy - (you said, "you did not answer every question I asked. I asked what percentage of the different races do YOU think is desirable at GOP conventions, since you made such a big deal about not seeing enough "people at color" at GOP conventions.") @Cchanldy, I have no idea as to what the balance of color at GOP conventions should be. However, when surveying an audience at a GOP event, it would be nice see a diverse group of people, including race. But, this is up to GOP decision makers.
FrankieAddiego Republicans Want A Place In Your Bedroom. This is just too vague, and there's no reason this has anything to do with race. Fail.
FrankieAddiego GOP Wants To Define Marriage: The Democrats want to define marriage too. They don't want plural marriage anymore than the RNC. That may sound insulting to gays, but why? Because polygamists are NOT seen as sympathetic and are, to some people, associated with child abuse.
FrankieAddiego GOP Doesn't Need Us 47%ers. Again, plenty of whites are "47%"ers by any interpretation. And there are minorities who are well-to-do and primarily vote Republican.
FrankieAddiego GOP Not Engaged in Minority Areas: I'm assuming by "minority areas," he means minority issues (as opposed to predominantly minority neighborhoods) and all I can say is that reasonable people should be able to agree to disagree on things like Affirmative Action and illegal immigration (up to a point) but if people like him could never vote for a candidate who didn't agree with them, I hope he doesn't hold his breath for the GOP to change.
FrankieAddiego In fact: let's look at this one by one.
Insulting terminology: the two examples LAP used when asked to explain this elsewhere were the 47% remark and the "self deportation" remark. There is NOTHING insulting about the "self deportation remark," except that the Dems want Latinos to take any attack on illegals as an affront to them. As for the 47% remark, yes it was wrong (and Romney admitted it) but certainly there are plenty of white males in this alleged 47%.
koffee @likeAplan wrote, "I did not call anyone a sell out. It's the picture." Uh, and YOU picked the picture, genius.
FrankieAddiego CC: Like only looks at electoral maps when they're convenient. Obama's lead in the popular vote kinda narrow? Well let's look at the EC vote. Now it's a "landslide."
FrankieAddiego How, exactly do you "cater to the white vote?" Did Romney campaign on giving whites preference when they apply for college? Did he renounce a fence on the Canadian border? Or the male vote? Did he campaign to legalize the male contraceptive? Tell men they have a more divided pay rate? Or could it be that their target isn't defined by demographics?
cchanldy @likeAplan - you did not answer every question I asked. I asked what percentage of the different races do YOU think is desirable at GOP conventions, since you made such a big deal about not seeing enough "people at color" at GOP conventions. You're dodging, instead of answering. I will not answer your question until I actually get an answer to mine, since I asked first. I am not going to play the leftist "change the subject" game with you. Answer my question, or move on.
likeAplan @cchanldy - Most Republicans probably think that 0% is reasonable. I have answered every question you asked, yet you do not answer my question. In your opinion why is it that the Republican Party is not as diverse as the Democrat Party?
cchanldy @likeAplan - weird. You make a big deal out of the % of "people of color" you don't see at GOP events, then when asked what a reasonable % would be you punt.
likeAplan @cchanldy - I don't control who attends GOP conventions. I'm sure they elect delegates the same as Democrats do. I would guess that the makeup of the audience represents the GOP targeted voter category. This is the land of the FREE, and the GOP can go after any category of voter they want. I'm not a member or delegate or supporter of the GOP. Since you are supporter or even member, why is the GOP not going after a more diverse voter group?
likeAplan @koffee - I did not call anyone a sell out. It's the picture. However, I have been called a "sell out" for support a Republican a couple election cycles ago. But, based on what I have been hearing and seeing the past 8 years, never again, unless the GOP changes it message. I only speak for me.
cchanldy @likeAplan - I'd still like to know the % breakdown of races you think is desirable at GOP conventions.
koffee @likeAplan Calling minorities "sell outs" for supporting the GOP isn't from the news. That was you. Bigot.
cchanldy @likeAplan - the "South is RED" huh? So, Jimmy Carter & Clinton lost the "solid (RED) south?" You apparently haven't looked at electoral maps since Nixon, Ford and Reagan were elected. That "south is red" meme's a false one that leftists trot out like they do the false "Republicans are rich" meme. The GOP's real problem (and one of its greatest flaws) is that they let you get away with it. The "children and grandchildren" of the original lynching Democrats are likely voting Democrat themselves.
likeAplan @cchanldy - (you said, "In addition, I know that historically the black community began supporting Democrats when Democrats were actively lynching,) The children and grand-children of those doing the lynching are now in full support of the GOP. The South is RED. I could be wrong, but if you listen to the general message of the GOP this is what many voters hear. The GOP insults many voters, then whine and cry and invoke history when they don't get those votes.
likeAplan @koffee - I did not create the story line of how the GOP needs to tap into the Hispanic and Black vote. It has been all over the news since election night. I see no reason for minority voting groups to ever, ever vote for a Republican candidate.
cchanldy @likeAplan - In addition, I know that historically the black community began supporting Democrats when Democrats were actively lynching, so I don't give credence at all to the notion that a black or Hispanic person cannot support the GOP because there are some white Americans in the GOP who just don't care much about what happens to "minorities." I bet the percentage of white Democrats who care about "minorities" is comparable to GOP supporters.
cchanldy @likeAplan - On top of that, the black community (in part due to abortion) is only 12% of the U.S. population. What percentage of the seats in any given GOP convention should be taken up by blacks? What % taken up by Hispanics, or Asians, or whites? The Democratic Party has not left its race-based roots. It just figured out how to get blacks to think that way too. It's pretty disgusting really.
cchanldy @likeAplan - I don't even know where to begin to address the extremely shallow view of the world that insists you have to see a lot of people of your own race in an auditorium before you understand whether or not a political, fiscal, or religious policy/position makes logical sense. Especially if a vast majority of the people who have your same skin color are living in the worse conditions in the inner cities of America under the leadership of Democratic Party operatives who could care less.
koffee @likeAplan Since you deliberately picked a picture of a sign that reads "Sell Out!", you are clearly implying that minorities that support the GOP are sell outs. What's with all of your racists comments recently? While you and I are on opposite sides of the political spectrum, I never took you as a bad person or racist. It's really sad - I thought we were very close to being a color-blind society. This election has been very eye opening.
likeAplan @cchanldy - Here's an example for you. Last evening I was watching coverage of the Petraeus scandal. On CNN they were having an objective, intelligent conversation about the scandal. However, on FOXNews they were talking about President Obama lying about the scandal. I know you don't watch FoxNews, but this is just an example of how the GOP needs to distance their party from pundits who care more about saying the most outrageous things than being objective.
likeAplan @PatrickGentry - Minority and educated voting groups will continue to ignore the GOP so long as the GOP continue to stand by the message that extreme conservative pundits spew. That is a message of divisiveness and callousness. At the end of the day, the GOP don't want a diverse or colorful coalition.
likeAplan @cchanldy - The next time you go to a GOP event. I would advise you to sit in the back and survey the audience. A picture is worth 1000 words. The GOP makes no effort, and they don't want to!
likeAplan @cchanldy - Well, I must agree that you are correct. History is very important. I cannot argue with that, however, I can argue that you are blaming everything except the GOP for not pursuing other voter categories. The GOP throws around terms like "welfare moms" "food stamp nation" "self-deport". The Republican Party need to sever the relationship with pundits who continue to speak for the GOP.
PatrickGentry Minorities will not vote GOP as long as the false stigmas intentionally placed by the liberal mainstream media that the GOP is a white party or a racist party is allowed to persist.
The funny this is how racist the left is and they get passed over by media 100%. You have Obama calling his great grandfather a house n#%%^* in his autobiography, you have Biden telling Blacks Romney "gonna put ya back in chains" and it is the GOP that is racist because they support enforcing immigration laws?
cchanldy @likeAplan - Wait, what?! Did a person who posted a Wayin with a Calvin Coolidge reference REALLY tell me not to look back in history for references or anecdotes? LOL! Dang, leftists are GOOD!
cchanldy @likeAplan - why are you ignorant of history, or want others to remain that way? This is 2012, and we know today that looking back we can mine a lot of useful data out of events that have occurred in the past so that we don't repeat the mistakes of the past. Stop being a black history denier and deal with it instead of running from it.
likeAplan @cchanldy - Why are you going back to 1870? This is 2012, almost 2013. A lot has changed since 1940, would you say? The bottom line is that the Republican Party has not targeted a more diverse electorate. This is no secret.
cchanldy @likeAplan - wonder how the Democrats got black Americans to begin voting Democratic during the 1870s-1940s during the height of the KKK and Jim Crow era? During the height of the era of lynching. When FDR refused to sign anti-lynching legislation. By your analysis, that could not have happened.
The GOP has done NOTHING near as horrendous as the Democratic Party's done to black Americans and other minorities. Your analysis doesn't hold water.
likeAplan @outrider - The Republican Party don't want all categories of voters. The Republican Party insults certain voting groups then whines about not getting their votes. When your presidential candidate says during a debate that people should "self-deport" or behind close doors, that 47% of voters have an entitlement mentality, what do you expect, them to flock to vote for him? Stop blaming the race of a voter....BLAME YOUR POLITICAL PARTY. They are fine perfectly with one group of voters.
outrider @likeaplan- No GOP Candidate can win if 97% of the black vote and 78% of the Hispanic vote in any election thanks to people like yourself and other liberals who demonize them by playing the race card and using fear tactics. You need to go back a little
likeAplan @outrider - Are politicians bending over backwards, NOW, to cater to the White vote? You say that President Obama is the worse president ever. If this is true, how could a candidate like Romney not win the election (only 206 electoral votes)?
outrider Very soon all races except one will be of importance to politicians, the Hispanic population is growing at such a fast pace for a politician to be elected he will have to bend over backward to cater to the Latinos or risk losing the election, now as it happens it was Romney that lost the Hispanic vote but in the near future politics will be solely a Hispanic affair, asians, blacks, whites Will be governed by latino leaders. Obama is the worst president and the only reason he won was Latinos